[Lapg] Ernesto Sirolli: Want to help someone? Shut up and listen! TED TALK
Wesley Roe and Santa Barbara Permaculture Network
lakinroe at silcom.com
Sun Dec 9 09:04:12 PST 2012
Ernesto Sirolli: Want to help someone? Shut up and listen!TED TALK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chXsLtHqfdM
http://www.ted.com/talks/ernesto_sirolli_want_to_help_someone_shut_up_and_listen.html
Everything I do, and everything I do professionally -- my life -- has
been shaped by seven years of work as a young man in Africa. From 1971
to 1977 -- I look young, but I'm not --- (Laughter) -- I worked in
Zambia, Kenya, Ivory Coast, Algeria, Somalia, in projects of technical
cooperation with African countries.
I worked for an Italian NGO, and every single project that we set up in
Africa failed. And I was distraught. I thought, age 21, that we Italians
were good people and we were doing good work in Africa. Instead,
everything we touched we killed.
Our first project, the one that has inspired my first book, "Ripples
from the Zambezi," was a project where we Italians decided to teach
Zambian people how to grow food. So we arrived there with Italian seeds
in southern Zambia in this absolutely magnificent valley going down to
the Zambezi River, and we taught the local people how to grow Italian
tomatoes and zucchini and ... And of course the local people had
absolutely no interest in doing that, so we paid them to come and work,
and sometimes they would show up. (Laughter) And we were amazed that the
local people, in such a fertile valley, would not have any agriculture.
But instead of asking them how come they were not growing anything, we
simply said, "Thank God we're here." (Laughter) "Just in the nick of
time to save the Zambian people
And of course, everything in Africa grew beautifully. We had these
magnificent tomatoes. In Italy, a tomato would grow to this size. In
Zambia, to this size. And we could not believe, and we were telling the
Zambians, "Look how easy agriculture is." When the tomatoes were nice
and ripe and red, overnight, some 200 hippos came out from the river and
they ate everything. (Laughter)
And we said to the Zambians, "My God, the hippos!"
And the Zambians said, "Yes, that's why we have no agriculture here."
(Laughter)
"Why didn't you tell us?" "You never asked."
I thought it was only us Italians blundering around Africa, but then I
saw what the Americans were doing, what the English were doing, what the
French were doing, and after seeing what they were doing, I became quite
proud of our project in Zambia. Because, you see, at least we fed the
hippos.
You should see the rubbish --- (Applause) -- You should see the rubbish
that we have bestowed on unsuspecting African people. You want to read
the book, read "Dead Aid," by Dambisa Moyo, Zambian woman economist. The
book was published in 2009. We Western donor countries have given the
African continent two trillion American dollars in the last 50 years.
I'm not going to tell you the damage that that money has done. Just go
and read her book. Read it from an African woman, the damage that we
have done.
We Western people are imperialist, colonialist missionaries, and there
are only two ways we deal with people: We either patronize them, or we
are paternalistic. The two words come from the Latin root "pater," which
means "father." But they mean two different things. Paternalistic, I
treat anybody from a different culture as if they were my children. "I
love you so much." Patronizing, I treat everybody from another culture
as if they were my servants. That's why the white people in Africa are
called "bwana," boss.
I was given a slap in the face reading a book, "Small is Beautiful,"
written by Schumacher, who said, above all in economic development, if
people do not wish to be helped, leave them alone. This should be the
first principle of aid. The first principle of aid is respect. This
morning, the gentleman who opened this conference lay a stick on the
floor, and said, "Can we -- can you imagine a city that is not neocolonial?"
I decided when I was 27 years old to only respond to people, and I
invented a system called Enterprise Facilitation, where you never
initiate anything, you never motivate anybody, but you become a servant
of the local passion, the servant of local people who have a dream to
become a better person. So what you do -- you shut up. You never arrive
in a community with any ideas, and you sit with the local people. We
don't work from offices. We meet at the cafe. We meet at the pub. We
have zero infrastructure. And what we do, we become friends, and we find
out what that person wants to do.
The most important thing is passion. You can give somebody an idea. If
that person doesn't want to do it, what are you going to do? The passion
that the person has for her own growth is the most important thing. The
passion that that man has for his own personal growth is the most
important thing. And then we help them to go and find the knowledge,
because nobody in the world can succeed alone. The person with the idea
may not have the knowledge, but the knowledge is available.
So years and years ago, I had this idea: Why don't we, for once, instead
of arriving in the community to tell people what to do, why don't, for
once, listen to them? But not in community meetings.
Let me tell you a secret. There is a problem with community meetings.
Entrepreneurs never come, and they never tell you, in a public meeting,
what they want to do with their own money, what opportunity they have
identified. So planning has this blind spot. The smartest people in your
community you don't even know, because they don't come to your public
meetings.
What we do, we work one-on-one, and to work one-on-one, you have to
create a social infrastructure that doesn't exist. You have to create a
new profession. The profession is the family doctor of enterprise, the
family doctor of business, who sits with you in your house, at your
kitchen table, at the cafe, and helps you find the resources to
transform your passion into a way to make a living.
I started this as a tryout in Esperance, in Western Australia. I was a
doing a Ph.D. at the time, trying to go away from this patronizing
bullshit that we arrive and tell you what to do. And so what I did in
Esperance that first year was to just walk the streets, and in three
days I had my first client, and I helped this first guy who was smoking
fish from a garage, was a Maori guy, and I helped him to sell to the
restaurant in Perth, to get organized, and then the fishermen came to me
to say, "You the guy who helped Maori? Can you help us?" And I helped
these five fishermen to work together and get this beautiful tuna not to
the cannery in Albany for 60 cents a kilo, but we found a way to take
the fish for sushi to Japan for 15 dollars a kilo, and the farmers came
to talk to me, said, "Hey, you helped them. Can you help us?" In a year,
I had 27 projects going on, and the government came to see me to say,
"How can you do that? How can you do --- ?" And I said, "I do something
very, very, very difficult. I shut up, and listen to them." (Laughter)
So --- (Applause) --- So the government says, "Do it again." (Laughter)
We've done it in 300 communities around the world. We have helped to
start 40,000 businesses. There is a new generation of entrepreneurs who
are dying of solitude.
Peter Drucker, one of the greatest management consultants in history,
died age 96, a few years ago. Peter Drucker was a professor of
philosophy before becoming involved in business, and this is what Peter
Drucker says: "Planning is actually incompatible with an entrepreneurial
society and economy." Planning is the kiss of death of entrepreneurship.
So now you're rebuilding Christchurch without knowing what the smartest
people in Christchurch want to do with their own money and their own
energy. You have to learn how to get these people to come and talk to
you. You have to offer them confidentiality, privacy, you have to be
fantastic at helping them, and then they will come, and they will come
in droves. In a community of 10,000 people, we get 200 clients. Can you
imagine a community of 400,000 people, the intelligence and the passion?
Which presentation have you applauded the most this morning? Local,
passionate people. That's who you have applauded.
So what I'm saying is that entrepreneurship is where it's at. We are at
the end of the first industrial revolution -- nonrenewable fossil fuels,
manufacturing -- and all of a sudden, we have systems which are not
sustainable. The internal combustion engine is not sustainable. Freon
way of maintaining things is not sustainable. What we have to look at is
at how we feed, cure, educate, transport, communicate for seven billion
people in a sustainable way. The technologies do not exist to do that.
Who is going to invent the technology for the green revolution?
Universities? Forget about it! Government? Forget about it! It will be
entrepreneurs, and they're doing it now.
There's a lovely story that I read in a futurist magazine many, many
years ago. There was a group of experts who were invited to discuss the
future of the city of New York in 1860. And in 1860, this group of
people came together, and they all speculated about what would happen to
the city of New York in 100 years, and the conclusion was unanimous: The
city of New York would not exist in 100 years. Why? Because they looked
at the curve and said, if the population keeps growing at this rate, to
move the population of New York around, they would have needed six
million horses, and the manure created by six million horses would be
impossible to deal with. They were already drowning in manure.
(Laughter) So 1860, they are seeing this dirty technology that is going
to choke the life out of New York.
So what happens? In 40 years' time, in the year 1900, in the United
States of America, there were 1,001 car manufacturing companies --
1,001. The idea of finding a different technology had absolutely taken
over, and there were tiny, tiny little factories in backwaters.
Dearborn, Michigan. Henry Ford.
However, there is a secret to work with entrepreneurs. First, you have
to offer them confidentiality. Otherwise they don't come and talk to
you. Then you have to offer them absolute, dedicated, passionate service
to them. And then you have to tell them the truth about
entrepreneurship. The smallest company, the biggest company, has to be
capable of doing three things beautifully:
The product that you want to sell has to be fantastic, you have to have
fantastic marketing, and you have to have tremendous financial
management. Guess what? We have never met a single human being in the
world who can make it, sell it and look after the money. It doesn't
exist. This person has never been born. We've done the research, and we
have looked at the 100 iconic companies of the world -- Carnegie,
Westinghouse, Edison, Ford, all the new companies, Google, Yahoo.
There's only one thing that all the successful companies in the world
have in common, only one: None were started by one person. Now we teach
entrepreneurship to 16-year-olds in Northumberland, and we start the
class by giving them the first two pages of Richard Branson's
autobiography, and the task of the 16-year-olds is to underline, in the
first two pages of autobiography, and the task of the 16-year-olds is to
underline, in the first two pages of Richard Branson's autobiography how
many times Richard uses the word "I" and how many times he uses the word
"we."
Never the word "I," and the word "we" 32 times. He wasn't alone when he
started. Nobody started a company alone. No one. So we can create the
community where we have facilitators who come from a small business
background sitting in cafes, in bars, and your dedicated buddies who
will do to you, what somebody did for this gentleman who talks about
this epic, somebody who will say to you, "What do you need? What can you
do? Can you make it? Okay, can you sell it? Can you look after the
money?" "Oh, no, I cannot do this." "Would you like me to find you
somebody?" We activate communities. We have groups of volunteers
supporting the Enterprise Facilitator to help you to find resources and
people and we have discovered that the miracle of the intelligence of
local people is such that you can change the culture and the economy of
this community just by capturing the passion, the energy and imagination
of your own people.
Thank you. (Applause)
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