[Lapg] 7 Foods/Plants The Healthiest People Eat

Wed Sep 1 15:25:53 PDT 2010

I found this listing on Local harvest
http://www.localharvest.org/pure-land-farms-M19728

there's also these guys...
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/grd/1918482945.html

and I've actually seen goji starters at Home Depot

Personally I might have some seeds to share in the next couple months.

Let me know if you get those seeds from Tibet, would be interested to trade
with you...

peace
R

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:27 PM, lynne latham <llpdinc at earthlink.net> wrote:

> I searched your JLHudsenseeds site and found no goji berries or
> wolfberries. I have searched in vain for these seeds and finally had to
> order them from Tibet-not very sustainable. If anyone knows of a local
> source it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Lynne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: sasha karlik <sasha at greens.org>
> >Sent: Sep 1, 2010 4:42 PM
> >To: Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com>, Lapg at arashi.com
> >Subject: Re: [Lapg] 7 Foods/Plants The Healthiest People Eat
> >
> >Something I have suspected for several years, seems to be strongly
> >affirmed if not confirmed by something I just read, following a link on
> >Wikipedia to a very well written (2007) article at Tibetinfonet.net.  If
> >your curiosity is piqued after reading my short, irate rant, please read
> >the complete article, at tibetinfonet.net.  The first paragraph of that
> >article appears below the link.  The entire article is several pages
> >long and worth the read...
> >
> >The real secret is that the name "Goji Berries" was created by cunning
> >marketeers, to fraudulently sell a Chinese ag product, (Lycium)
> >wolfberries, as somehow "Tibetan" or "Himalayan""Goji Berries".  They
> >are neither Tibetan, nor are they really "Goji Berries".
> >
> >Here is another 'secret' these marketers would prefer to keep a secret:
> >Chinese wolfberries, even while grown and shipped with pesticides and
> >fungicides, are often labeled and sold as "Organic", "Tibetan" or
> >"Himalayan", and voila!, the price magically doubles or triples, as that
> >pesky "Chinese" problem somehow magically disappears.
> >
> >If you like "Goji Berries", try making a little trip to Chinatown.  You
> >can find pallet loads of Chinese wolfberries at more than a dozen shops
> >from about $5-$10/lb.  Please do not buy them to re-package or resell as
> >somehow Tibetan.  It's sleazy, dishonest and disgusting to steal and use
> >the good name of Tibet to cover up something that likely has toxic
> >pesticides and fungicides and was probably produced by the mostly
> >slave-labor market practices of the PRC.
> >
> >To perpetuate this deception only to inflate the profit margin is the
> >epitome of greed and really sucks.
> >
> >In my humble opinion: The marketers who pull this kind of sh*t anywhere
> >should get their individual and collective ass kicked off the planet.
> >
> >Thanks to Dennis Pilien for bringing up the question-- I'll bet you buck
> >that these babies are already growing somewhere right here in North
> >America.  (anywhere between Panama to Alaska...)
> >
> >Order all the best heirloom seeds easily from one CA based seed bank:
> >JLHUDSONSEEDS.NET
> >
> >"The best solution is a permaculture solution..."
> >
> >Sasha Karlik
> >
> >http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/SeedlistLO-LZ.htm
> >LYCIUM (LISH-ee-um, LI-see-um, or LYE-see-um)
> >SOLANACEAE. 'MATRIMONY VINE', 'BOXTHORN'. Ornamental shrubs, often
> >clambering, or with graceful, arching branches. Valued for their
> >funnel-shaped flowers and bright scarlet berries. Good for hedges,
> >wildlife habitat, erosion control, food and medicine. Some of the 100 or
> >so species are hardy in the North, and the pendant types are especially
> >attractive cascaded down a wall. Good by the seaside and for fixing
> >sandy banks. Easily grown.
> >—Lycium chinense. (b,h) LYCI-12. Packet: $2.50
> >Oz: $14.00
> >'CHINESE WOLFBERRY', 'KUKO', 'KO-CHI'. Purple half-inch flowers June to
> >September, followed by attractive scarlet 1/2 - 1" long berries, August
> >to October. Graceful arching shrub to 12 feet, with bright green 1 1/2 -
> >3" oval leaves. E. Asia. Hardy in the North, and "It is a splendid sight
> >in autumn gardens, when its slender branches are laden with scarlet
> >berries."—Yashiroda. These branches are much valued in Japanese
> >flower-arranging. Germinates in 1 - 4 weeks. The young leaves are eaten
> >in salads or boiled with rice as flavoring, and are also drunk as tea.
> >The berries are eaten and a medicinal wine is made from them. Leaves,
> >root and fruit are all highly valued in Chinese medicine, as "prolonging
> >life, improving the complexion & brightening the eye."—Pen Ts'ao.
> >—Lycium exsertum. (a!,h) LYCI-22. Packet: $2.50
> >'WOLFBERRY'. Profuse small lavender flowers followed by abundant bright
> >red edible berries. Spiny shrub to 3 - 6 feet. Low deserts, Arizona &
> >México. Very drought resistant. The berries were eaten in great
> >quantities by the Indians, fresh, cooked, or dried like raisins. Good
> >wildlife shrub. Germinates in 2 - 6 weeks.
> >
> >
> >
> >http://www.tibetinfonet.net/content/update/124
> >
> >Under the exotic name 'goji berry', a variety of Lycium fruit, more
> >commonly referred to as wolfberry, has taken the booming global 'health
> >food' market by storm. Although the berries do possess exceptional
> >nutritional qualities, many of those marketing 'goji berry' products
> >claim the fruit has miraculous properties, such as curing cancer and
> >increasing longevity; claims that have been exposed as fraudulent. What
> >has been often overlooked however is that the aggressive marketing
> >strategies supporting the goji craze rely heavily on portraying the
> >berries as a Tibetan product. This Special Report shows that the
> >purported Tibetan origin of goji berries is bogus and relies on the
> >misappropriation and distortion of western research on Traditional
> >Tibetan Medicine (TTM). Moreover, there are no indications that the
> >berries that have swamped worldwide markets have actually been grown
> >commercially in any Tibetan region of the People's Republic of China
> >(PRC). Rather, they originate from regions at the outer fringes of the
> >Tibetan Plateau where they are grown by Chinese Muslims (Hui). Apart
> >from obscuring the provenance of the berries, Western goji traders
> >present standard stereotypes, implicit assumptions of cultural
> >superiority, and politically correct sanitisations, which neatly reflect
> >the politically dominant image of Tibet in China. Many companies
> >distributing goji products appear to cynically take advantage of the
> >naivety or serious health problems of western consumers, as well as of
> >inaccurate Tibet images in order to market a Chinese crop as a Tibetan
> >product without providing any apparent returns to Tibetans. The example
> >of the goji berry demonstrates that, unless transparent structures are
> >established within and outside the PRC to verify the authenticity of
> >Tibetan products, the name of Tibet is destined to be misappropriated as
> >a convenient label that profits non-Tibetans.
> >
> >
> >
> >Superfood #2: Goji Berries
> >Move over carrot.
> >This little, bright red berry from China is one of the most potent
> >sources of beta-carotene and vitamin C. These are both fantastic
> >antioxidants.
> >
> >Goji berries also contain 18 amino acids and over 21 minerals which give
> >them a serious power-punch to anyone’s system.
> >Goji berries help stimulate your body’s natural human growth hormone
> >which is critical in anti-aging and longevity.
> >You can only get them dried in the US, so don't expect to find them in
> >any produce section. Some health food stores will carry them, but you're
> >best bet is online.
> >Goji berries are a fantastic snack--eat them just like you would
> >raisins--to add to your superfood arsenal and are a great addition to
> >any herbal tea.
> >
> >
> >
> >On 09/01/2010 09:37 AM, Dennis Pilien wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All:
> >> Here's a thought: These are the healthiest foods/plants to eat. See
> >> attachment for more details on each food/plant nutrient. My question to
> >> any of you is "Do you know where I can get any one these locally?" I am
> >> searching online for seeds or cuttings or techniques to raise or grow my
> >> own.
> >> I want to grow them in my mini-greenhouses/ponds this fall/winter as
> >> needed and/or in my own garden or community garden plot. I want to use
> >> permacultural agriculture, aquaponics/mariculture and experimant in the
> >> city a bit. I hope it works out. I might also try a Chido Govero-style
> >> of agriculture also (small-scale, high-end product, permaculturally) of
> >> course.
> >>
> >> The 7 foods/plants the healthiest people eat are: *Cacao, Goji Berries,
> >> Maca, Raw Honey, Spirulina, Sea Vegetables, Pumpkin Seeds*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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