[Lapg] [Scpg] Perennial vegetable list wanted

[Cory Brennan]

It's good to hear about the book you publish - I was just talking to some permaculturists who didn't think there were any such books or lists, I'll pass the info along to them. I will check out ECHO's lists too, that is a good idea. 

Wendy, I agree we need good lists of edible natives for both areas. A couple of people I know are working on one for Florida.  And there are definitely differences in climate but a lot of the same things will grow in both climates too - I was surprised at just how many.

Cory



--- On Sat, 12/12/09, Dan Hemenway <permacltur at aol.com> wrote:

> From: Dan Hemenway <permacltur at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Scpg] Perennial vegetable list wanted
> To: cory8570 at yahoo.com, scpg at arashi.com, lapg at arashi.com, johnvalenzuela at myway.com
> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 9:29 AM
> ECHO in N. Ft. Meyers has the best listing for
> your area.  Many vegetables that grow as annuals in
> temperate gardens are tropical perennials of varied
> lifespans, e.g., lima beans, peppers, sweet potato, etc.
>  You should get Frank Martin's Edible Leaves of
> the Tropics, which is exustive.  We publish his
> Plants for Use in Permaculture in the Tropics, which
> also would have many of the vegetables that you seek.
>  Bear in mind that tree crops are more important than
> herbaceous crops in tropical or near-tropical conditions.
>  Probably the most nutritious single vegetable you can
> grow is the Moringa tree. Herbaceous plants with
> edible roots or tubers, such as sweet potato, jicima,
> various yams, chayote (also leaves and fruit), etc., are
> very good to have around as survival food when hurricanes
> strip away most vegetation and fruit above ground.
>  Natives in Borneo retained good health living almost
> entirely on sweetpotato during the Japanese occupation in
> World War II.  Some fruits, such as sapote, seem more
> like vegetables to me.  Weedy plants, such as
> Chenopodium giganteum, are not perennial but self-sow
> so freely that the are the next best thing.  And that
> is another with super flavor and super nutritional value.
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> Dan Hemenway
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> From: Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com>
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> To: scpg at arashi.com; lapg <lapg at arashi.com>;
> johnvalenzuela at myway.com
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> Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:30 pm
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> PS, I will share the
> complete list on these lists once I get it together :-)
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> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, John Valenzuela <johnvalenzuela at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > From: John Valenzuela <johnvalenzuela at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Scpg] Perennial vegetable list wanted
> > To: cory8570 at yahoo.com, scpg at arashi.com, "lapg" <lapg at arashi.com>
> > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 12:34 PM
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> > Lots of lists out there. . .
> > 
> > My favorite, a must have for all food foresters, with
> an
> > incredible range of climates included (Canada to
> > Hawai'i):
> > Perennial
> > Vegetables
> >           From
> > Artichokes to Zuiki Taro, a Gardener's Guide to
> Over 100
> > Delicious, Easy-to-Grow Edibles
> >           by Eric
> > ToensmeierPublished by Chelsea
> > Green
> > 
> > After living in Hawai'i  for 15 years, 
> > here are some of my favorites greens for your climate:
> > 
> > Tree collards, Brassica
> > edible hibiscus, pacific spinach, Abelmoschus
> > katuk, Saropus
> > horseradish tree, Moringa
> > Okinawan spinach, Gyurna
> > Brasilian spinach, Alternanthera
> > Mayan spinach, Chaya
> > 
> > don't get me started on the perennial roots, and
> vines.
> > . .
> > well, I can go on, and on, if you want.
> > 
> > JV
> > 
> > Cornucopia Kitchen Gardens and Food Forests
> > John Valenzuela 
> > Permaculture Services
> > Horticulturist, Consultant, Educator- 
> > 
> > California, Hawai'i 
> > phone: (415) 246-8834
> > 
> > e-mail: johnvalenzuela at hotmail.com
> > 
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> > 
> > > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:35:17 -0800
> > > From: cory8570 at yahoo.com
> > > To: scpg at arashi.com; lapg at arashi.com
> > > Subject: [Scpg] Perennial vegetable list wanted
> > > 
> > > Anybody know where I could find a pretty
> comprehensive
> > list of perennial veggies that will grow in Florida
> and/or S
> > Calif?  I have partial lists, but I'm looking to
> expand
> > them.
> > > 
> > > Cory
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