[Lapg] Southern California version of this
Jodi Levine
earthrootsoc at gmail.com
Wed Nov 4 21:18:27 PST 2009
Along that line, Earthroots Field School will be hiring new instructors &
looking for interns in 2010 for our field programs with children. Let me
know if you are interested in sharing this vision!
www.earthrootsfieldschool.org
Jodi
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Practically speaking, get as much formal education as you think you need.
> Graduate. Stop. Get a job (informal or not, paid or not) and do what you
> love doing.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Rashid G. <rashidreza at gmail.com>
> *To:* Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* crsp at igc.org; cityrepairla at lists.riseup.net; Lora Hall <
> gardengrl at gmail.com>; Ray Cruz <ray.cruz at ergonica.com>; lapg at arashi.com
> *Sent:* Wed, November 4, 2009 1:31:53 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Lapg] Southern California version of this
>
> Great info
> thanks ladies and gents
>
> thought I should add that I just learned today that California State
> University Stanislaus
> is offering a B.A. in "Agricultural Studies with a concentration in
> Permaculture"
>
> I was amazed to do a state wide search (assist.org) of the UC an CSU
> system
> and see the word permaculture actually come up under a title for a major.
> I almost didnt even bother to include that word in my searches
> its the only one that came up in my search
>
> heres the CSUS specific website for the major
> http://www.csustan.edu/AGStudies/Permaculture_conc.htm
>
> I *REALLY* wish something like this was offered here in So Cal
> I have my liberal studies AA and...
> I'm trying to figure out if there is some viable program I can transfer
> into next year for an undergraduate degree that is not too heavily major
> prep intensive (as in- not spending too much more time at the community
> college level before getting into such an undergraduate program).
>
> I really resonate with what Lois said about "those interested in deep and
> rapid change not spend too much time in traditional academic programs..."
> But a traditional academics program is attractive because of the wider
> support system it provides, the main attraction of that support system for
> me would be the state and federally subsidized monetary support.
> But I keep thinking of the fact, that the rapidly emerging, revolutionary
> paradigms in all fields of study related to permaculture and sustianable
> building/design will be seriously under-represented in most institutions.
> I keep thinking... How much time will I waste learning things that I wont
> use?
>
> I guess I'm trying to straddle both worlds.
> To learn and and make use of whats worthy and efficient from the old and
> marry it with whats emerging from the fringe.
>
> Its been kind of a riddle for me so far to try and figure out how to
> navigate these choices, especially because I dont have very much training in
> anything related to permaculture or sustainable building/design, and theres
> so many different combinations of the old world trainings to marry in with
> the emerging paradigms.
>
> Some of the ideas for pursuits, I've been tossing around are:
> Architecture B.A. ( SCI-Arc in LA)
> Construction Engineering Management B.S. ( CSU Long Beach )
> Construction Engineering Technology B.S. ( Cal Poly Pomona )
> Landscape Architecture B.S. ( Cal Poly Pomona )
> Engineering Technology B.S. w/ Environmental Technology option ( CSU Long
> Beach )
>
> and *OFCOURSE* I am considering Gaia University and will start doing more
> research on them in the coming days
>
> anyway sorry to make it so long winded
> any words of wisdom or advice would be appreiciated...
>
> Love and Gratitude
> R
>
> PS. Cal Poly Pomona is offering a Master of Science degree in Regenerative
> Studies
> http://www.csupomona.edu/~crs/graduate.html
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Great response to help many folks...
>> D
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Lois Arkin <crsp at igc.org>
>> *To:* cityrepairla at lists.riseup.net; Lora Hall <gardengrl at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com>; Ray Cruz <
>> ray.cruz at ergonica.com>; lapg at arashi.com
>> *Sent:* Mon, November 2, 2009 10:00:56 AM
>> *Subject:* Southern California version of this
>>
>> I would encourage people interested in higher education credentials to
>> check out Gaia University <www.gaiauniversity.org> where one can design
>> one's own "action-learning" program/curriculum, select one's own mentor
>> instructors, do one's academic work in place and more in alignment with the
>> rhythms of nature, as appropriate; pay a radically reduced fee compared to
>> the UCs or other private universities, and get the accredited degree of your
>> choice/accomplishment(BA, MA, PhD).
>>
>> Perhaps it is worth stressing, also, that those interested in deep and
>> rapid change not spend too much time in traditional academic programs which
>> tend, imo, to trail considerably the advanced work on-the-ground in
>> ecovillages, some intentional communities and nonprofit organizations
>> committed to manifesting and publicly demonstrating the necessary and
>> integrated changes/transitions: socially, economically and ecologically.
>>
>> If you are interested in talking with other students in the program, I
>> believe there may be a few on these listserves and/or contact Gaia
>> University. If there is a group of you that want to consider starting a GU
>> Regional Center in LA and want to use the resources of the CRSP Institute
>> for Urban Ecovillage for doing that, please begin to organize yourselves,
>> and let the dialog begin.
>>
>> Of course this type of program is not for everyone, and will not
>> necessarily serve all the purposes some strive for in their higher education
>> goals, but for people who do want to make a difference rapidly and deeply,
>> are clear in their academic goals, and have a lot of self-starter
>> initiative, are capable of earning while learning or have socked away enough
>> money to subsist on for awhile, this is something to consider.
>>
>> Best to all,
>> Lois Arkin
>> CRSP Institute for Urban Ecovillages at
>> L.A. Eco-Village
>> www.laecovillage.org
>>
>>
>> Lora Hall wrote:
>> > Cal Poly Pomona also offers the M.S. in Regenerative Studies. I just
>> finished in June. Supposedly the program goes beyond sustainability and
>> teaches you about regenerative systems. I can't say it was a great program-
>> a big disappointment compared to my experience at a UC. I had to teach
>> myself a lot of what I wanted to learn. But I do think they are trying to
>> make it better. So if someone is looking to do a graduate degree without
>> leaving so Cal, it is an option.
>> > -Lora
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com<mailto:
>> dpilien98 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ray,
>> > Thanks for the information. It is pretty interesting. It is also
>> > interesting how many look upon a PhD as an extreme specialist in a
>> > broad area of study. Isn't a PhD, in say, Environmental Science, the
>> > specialized study of something general? Codetalk?
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > *From:* Ray Cruz <ray.cruz at ergonica.com <mailto:
>> ray.cruz at ergonica.com>>
>> > *To:* cityrepairla at lists.riseup.net
>> > <mailto:cityrepairla at lists.riseup.net>; Dennis Pilien
>> > <dpilien98 at yahoo.com <mailto:dpilien98 at yahoo.com>>
>> > *Sent:* Sun, November 1, 2009 10:51:50 AM
>> > *Subject:* RE: [cityrepairla] Southern California version of this
>> >
>> > UCLA offers a B.S. in Environmental Science and also a minor program
>> > - much
>> > to do with sustainability through the Institute of the Environment.
>> Lower
>> > and Upper Division Course Listings can be viewed here:
>> >
>> > http://www.ioe.ucla.edu/academics/article.asp?parentid=420
>> >
>> > Leaders in Sustainability Graduate Certificate Program:
>> > This program provides a mechanism for graduate students at UCLA to
>> > pursue
>> > their interests in sustainability and collaborate with students from
>> > different fields.
>> >
>> > http://www.ioe.ucla.edu/lis/
>> >
>> > I'm sure other UC and CSU colleges offer similar courses and degrees,
>> > possibly the Ph.D.?
>> >
>> > Ray Cruz
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: cityrepairla-owner at lists.riseup.net
>> > <mailto:cityrepairla-owner at lists.riseup.net>
>> > [mailto:cityrepairla-owner at lists.riseup.net
>> > <mailto:cityrepairla-owner at lists.riseup.net>] On Behalf Of Dennis
>> Pilien
>> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:15 PM
>> > To: lapg at arashi.com <mailto:lapg at arashi.com>; City Repair LA
>> > Subject: [cityrepairla] Southern California version of this
>> >
>> > LAPG and City Repair Folks:
>> > Is there one like this or its equivalent in the L.A. area? Where or
>> > why not?
>> > Maine is nice, but far away. california is nice and a lot closer
>> > (permaculture)...
>> > Towards sustainability,
>> > DP
>> > Maine's Sustainability Solutions Initiative (SSI), a partnership
>> > between the
>> > University of Maine and the University of Southern Maine, offers
>> > unprecedented opportunities for graduate students to experience a
>> truly
>> > interdisciplinary learning experience through a $20 million, 5-year
>> > program
>> > funded by the National Science Foundation's EPSCoR program. The SSI's
>> > mission is to create an integrative research program and strong
>> > stakeholder
>> > partnerships to generate improved solutions to intersecting
>> ecological,
>> > social, and economic challenges in and beyond Maine. Graduate
>> > students will
>> > participate in collaborative research experiences with
>> interdisciplinary
>> > faculty teams focused on urbanization, forest ecosystem management,
>> and
>> > climate change. These efforts address the dynamics of
>> social-ecological
>> > systems with an emphasis on moving from knowledge to action.
>> > Students with
>> > backgrounds in a wide range of disciplines are encouraged to apply:
>> e.g.
>> > social sciences, biological, earth, and chemical sciences, natural
>> > resource
>> > management, communication, engineering, education, mathematics, and
>> > more.
>> >
>> > Up to 25 Ph.D. fellowships will be awarded at the University of
>> > Maine with a
>> > substantial portion of these beginning in fall 2010. Each fellowship
>> > will
>> > include a stipend of $20-25,000/ yr for up to five years, a tuition
>> > waiver,
>> > subsidy for health insurance, and some funds to support thesis
>> research.
>> > Masters degrees opportunities will be offered at the University of
>> > Southern
>> > Maine.
>> >
>> > For more information on SSI and fellowship applications, visit
>> > www.umaine.edu/sustainabilitysolutions
>> > <http://www.umaine.edu/sustainabilitysolutions>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -- Lora May Hall
>> >
>> > (323) 533-3235
>> >
>> >
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Jodi Levine
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