[Lapg] permculture neighborhoods

Sun Nov 1 11:00:20 PST 2009

I met a permacultural genius once. He/she showed they don't like people.
Liking Your Thoughts,
Dennis

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From: Gillian Webster <webster_gillian at hotmail.com>
To: dpilien98 at yahoo.com; cory8570 at yahoo.com; lapg at arashi.com
Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 5:47:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Lapg] permculture neighborhoods

I like that idea very much aswell, I think that once people understand the principles and the "simplicity" of permaculture it is far less daunting to create  a plentiful garden and see your neighbourhood for all its worth.

Lets get people involved, and push this thing forward
please keep me posted :)

Gilly 
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:46:04 -0700
From: dpilien98 at yahoo.com
To: cory8570 at yahoo.com; lapg at arashi.com
Subject: Re: [Lapg] permculture neighborhoods

Cory,
Good idea, let's talk, then move forward and do it. I help you, you help me, etc...
Dennis

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From: Cory Brennan <cory8570 at yahoo.com>
To: lapg at arashi.com
Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 7:55:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Lapg] permculture neighborhoods

Something that I had success with in creating community when in Florida is createclearwater.com.  We pooled our knowledge and did simple community projects at people's yards, etc, and we got a bunch of people gardening and interested in permaculture and sustainable living. It was pretty effortless and organic, because people seemed to be ready for it. Sometimes it takes a while to get that momentum up - I'm going to try something similar in my neighborhood here and see how it works. LA is a different animal, people are way more distracted and busy, and often they hang out someplace other than their own neighborhood, but we'll try to find some common ground.

Cory

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lapg] permculture neighborhoods
> To: "Sean Jennings" <swjennings at gmail.com>, "LAPG" <lapg at arashi.com>
> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 10:07 PM
> Sean,
> Very well-spoken...
> Dennis
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> From: Sean
> Jennings <swjennings at gmail.com>
> To: LAPG
> <lapg at arashi.com>
> Sent: Fri,
> October 30, 2009 6:39:05 PM
> Subject: Re:
> [Lapg] permculture neighborhoods
> 
> I'd have to say "Great Discussion."  It
> is nice to see this LAPG Listserv being used finally as a
> place to discuss rather than just promote.  
> 
> Have you heard of the Ecohood Project in what I believe to
> be Prescott, Az.  That may be what was being referred
> to.  While I do not know of any such thing in Los
> Angeles (LA Ecovillage does come to mind though), Valerie
> & Dennis are right, creating an ecological minded
> community where you live now is key, its not that hard.
> 
> Start a veggie garden in your front yard, talk to your
> neighbors as they pass by, and
>  before you know it, you'll meet all sorts of
> eco-minded folks, in the neighborhood you live in now. 
> We are zone 0, Permaculture starts with making personal
> change, and believe me, it will expand from there.
> 
> I do live in a rural place similar to Topanga, but I live
> and work at home, creating a CSA and Nursery, but if you
> have to commute, the country is not the best option.  I
> have been lucky enough to form a close community with my
> neighbors in this somewhat sparsely populated place. 
> We have neighborhood potlucks, farm days, music jams and
> more.  
> 
> Working close to home frees up more time in my day due to
> no commute as well as ties me to the place I live, it is
> easier to meet my neighbors and easier to get to know the
> land I live on.  Whether you live in the city or
> country, change your lifestyle so you can work close to
> where you live, invite your neighbors to share meals, and
> grow some food where people can see
>  it and share in it.  
> 
> If we all worked close to home, ie walking or biking
> distance, imagine the effect on LA's traffic
> problems.  We all have the choice to make it a reality,
> I encourage you to try.
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:57 AM,
> Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> Identifying the friendlies starts with ourselves. A
> newcomer to the geographic area has an advantage - he/she
> can appreciate the more than 20 million possibilities to
> find friendlies in the L.A. basin. Big factors are time and
> travel. Proximity to ideal models works for most, so many
> move to the westside, but people in other places can also
> think and create also. These folks might be next door to
> you.
> Dennis
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> From: Valerie
> <sacks at sacksconsulting.net>
> To:
> Dennis Pilien <dpilien98 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: lapg at arashi.com
> Sent: Fri,
> October 30, 2009 11:36:34 AM
> Subject: RE:
> [Lapg] permculture neighborhoods
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> Definitely true!  I
> think the goal for all of us should be to seek out “the
> friendlies” where we are and try to build that in our own
> communities.  Now I guess I should add that to my “to
> do” list!
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> From: Dennis Pilien
> [mailto:dpilien98 at yahoo.com]
> 
> Sent: Friday,
> October 30, 2009 11:34 AM
> To: Valerie;
> lapg at arashi.com
> Subject: Re:
> [Lapg] permculture neighborhoods
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> 
> Well-spoken.
> Sometimes the permaculture we seek is inside the ecology of
> our own landscapes. It may not make a difference where
> someone goes. They can make their own neighborhood, wherever
> it is, a permaculture place a step at a
> time.
> 
> Dennis
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> From: Valerie <sacks at sacksconsulting.net>
> To: lapg at arashi.com
> Sent: Fri,
> October 30, 2009 11:10:35 AM
> Subject:
> [Lapg] permculture neighborhoods
> 
> Topanga Canyon is beautiful, but unless you work in Topanga
> and your kids go
> to school in Topanga, I don't really know that you can
> live someplace
>  where
> you have to do so much driving and call it
> "Permaculture" ....
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