Ed
Mazria
Monday, January
26, 2009 @ 7:30 PM, Campbell Hall
Now, it's
PersonalSolving Our Energy, Climate Change and Economic Crisis
Is it possible to achieve energy independence, solve climate change
and revitalize the United States' economy with a single solution?
According to visionary Ed Mazria, founder of Architecture 2030 and
author of the premier solar design resource guide The Passive
Solar Energy Book, it is. An award-winning architect, author and
educator, Mazria will present the 2030 Blueprint, a simple, yet
powerful approach to achieving all of these goals through the building
sector, the largest energy consumer in the United States.
Presented as part of the Global Warming, Food Security
and Our Energy Future Event Series and by the Institute for Energy
Efficiency as part of the Energy Leadership Lecture
Series.
EDWARD MAZRIA
www.mazria.com/people.html
Edward Mazria is an internationally-recognized architect, author,
educator and visionary with a long and distinguished career. His
award-winning architecture and planning projects span over a
thirty-five year period and each employs a cutting-edge environmental
approach to design. He is the author of numerous published works,
including the 'bible' of solar design, The Passive Solar
Energy Book,
which is currently in use worldwide.
Most recently, Mr. Mazria has reshaped the national and international
dialogue on climate change to incorporate building design and the
'Building Sector'. He is the founder of Architecture
2030, an
innovative and flexible research organization focused on protecting
our global environment. He developed and issued the 2030 Challenge, a
measured and achievable strategy to dramatically reduce global GHG
emissions and fossil-fuel consumption by the year 2030. He speaks
nationally and internationally on the subject of architecture, design,
energy and climate change and has taught architecture at several
universities including the University of New Mexico, University of
Oregon and UCLA. His numerous awards include AIA Design Awards, AIA
Design Innovation Award, American Planning Association Award,
Department of Energy Awards, "Pioneer Award" from the American
Solar Energy Society, first recipient of the Equinox Award presented
on the 50th anniversary of construction of the world's first
commercial solar building, and most recently a 2008 National
Conservation Achievement Award from the National Wildlife Federation.
He is a fellow of the Design Futures Council.
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The TH
Interview: Edward Mazria, the Man from 2030
by Jacob Gordon, Nashville,
TN on 02.23.08
TREEHUGGER
RADIO
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/02/the_th_intervie_32.php
Architect Edward Mazria was one of the first to draw major
attention to the source that emits almost half of all greenhouse gas
emissions: our buildings.
Architecture 2030 has
been his vehicle for communicating a design logic based on stemming
the carbon footprint of the built environment, and his widely adopted
2030 Challenge has laid a strategy for rendering those buildings
carbon neutral. Mazria was featured on PBS's e2 series on sustainable
design, and
his 2010
Imperative is a call to
teach ecological literacy to the fledgling designers of the world.
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TreeHugger: You've been
calling for a lot more focus on climate solutions within design
schools. What needs to change and how do you see that
manifesting?
Ed Mazria: Well, in essence, climate change has really just come on
the scene in full force in the last year. The years prior it's been
understood, and many people were talking about it, but it hadn't
blasted onto the scene the way it has now. Now, it's front page news
all the time because we're beginning to see some of the effects of
climate change.
The schools have not kept up with the news and the situation that we
have today. We're going to need students coming out of school that can
address the issue. We know, for example, that the building sector is a
major part of the global warming problem. So we're going to need to
design our buildings very, very differently from now on out.
So when students come out of school and they go into to the
profession, especially the design or architecture
professions-planning, landscape architecture, interior design,
industrial design-they need to have a keen understanding of what the
issues are and how to solve the problem within that sector. So the
designs have to be appropriate really for today's
situation.
TH: You yourself, of
course, are an architect but some of your talks make you sound like a
climatologist. Is climate science something that architects need to
now grasp?
EM: I think so. I think climate science needs to be understood by
everyone. I think it's now becoming part of the conversation and
people really need to understand what it means and what it means for
them. Because everyone has a role to play. Some more than others, but
everyone has a role to play in addressing the situation.
We understand that in the building sector we have a major role to
play. So we need to, for example, not only change the profession and
change the schools, but we need to change the people who ask for
buildings to be designed and built. So there's a lot that we need to
do to educate all sorts of people about what's going on.
TH: A lot of people
really credit you with bringing to public attention in recent years
the climate impact of the built environment. So in the simplest terms,
how do you define the carbon footprint of buildings?
EM: Well, you need to look at two parts of buildings. There are
actually many parts, but these are the two primary parts. The first is
building a building and all the energy and greenhouse gas emissions
that occur when you manufacture and transport the materials, and when
you actually build the building.
So this is what we call the embodied energy component, or the
greenhouse gas emissions component, of constructing a building.
The other part of a building is building operations. Now, that is a
much larger number. Because once you build the building, it then
stands for 25, 50, 75, sometimes 100 years or more. So over its
lifetime, in order to operate the building-heating, lighting,
cooling, running machinery, the plug load, heating hot water, for
example-there are all sorts of building operations and they all
consume energy and they all give off greenhouse gas emissions.
So the major portion of greenhouse gas emission is attributed to the
building sector's building operations. Another percentage-a much,
much smaller percentage-is the embodied energy of building the
building and the greenhouse gas emissions.
TH: When you look at the
entire pie that represents carbon emissions, how big a slice does the
build environment constitute?
EM: Well, the built environment, it's pretty much everything. But if
we say just buildings, about 48% of total energy consumption in this
country is attributed to buildings. Forty percent on an annual basis
is attributed to building operations; 8% is attributed to building the
buildings, what I talked about as embodied energy.
So that's just buildings. Then you have transportation; so you have
air, rail, auto, and bus, and part of that is attributed to what we'd
call the built environment, how you lay out the building plan, so you
can affect that part also. It's only three sectors: building,
industry, and transportation. And so the build environment consists of
all those three.
But the building sector, the
designers, also have huge influence on the industrial sector, on the
types of materials that they manufacture and whether those materials
have high embodied energy or low embodied energy and, therefore, would
cut your greenhouse gas emissions.
And you're now seeing programs and instruments in the hands of
designers that actually now let them see that. Let's just take carpet,
for example. There are so many different carpet products, and there
are programs now that let you look at all the different types of
carpet and see what the greenhouse gas emissions are for the
manufacture of these different types of carpet. Or different types of
flooring, or different types of paint, or different types of gypsum
board, or other types of board. Different types of woods, things like
that.
So those tools are now making their way into the profession, and
architects are beginning to use them.
TH: The 2030 Challenge is
your creation. Tell us about that.
EM: It's a global challenge that we publicly issued in January of
2006. We basically worked backward and said: what are the reductions
we need by 2050, then what are the reductions we need in the building
sector by that time, and then we worked back to the present day.
So the first thing we need to do is level out emissions. The building
sector's emissions are growing annually and energy consumption is
growing annually, because we add more buildings to our building stock
every year and our population grows. So the first thing we wanted to
do was to stop emissions and energy consumption growth, especially
fossil fuel energy consumption growth.
So we looked at the numbers: how many square feet are demolished in
this country every year, how many square feet are renovated every
year, and then how many square feet are built new every year. And what
we discovered was that we renovate just about as much square footage
as we build new in this country.
So, what we said is, if we renovate a building, we tighten it up and
make it more efficient, and we reduce its consumption by 50%, then
we've made room for new buildings.
Then if new buildings are 50% lower than the average for each building
type, then we've basically leveled out the curve, because we make
room, with renovation, for new buildings. We cut down their energy
consumption to make room for the energy consumption of newer
buildings.
And so that's how the first phase of the 2030 Challenge works. What it
calls for is a 50% reduction in fossil-fuel energy for all new
buildings and major renovations below the regional average for that
building. So that flattens the curve out.
In order to bend the curve down, what we've done is we've increased
the reduction by 10% every five years so that, by the year 2030, we
get to zero, to what we term "carbon neutral." Which means
that any new building designed in the year 2030 would be designed to
use no greenhouse gas-emitting energy to operate. That doesn't mean
the buildings don't use energy to operate, they just don't use
greenhouse gas-emitting energy. And that's why we termed it the 2030
Challenge.
TreeHugger: People are
always saying that there's no silver bullet when it comes to the
climate crisis. But you say that there is a silver
bullet.
Edward Mazria: Absolutely. There's absolutely a silver bullet. I think
what has happened is that we look for lots of different ways to
address a situation so that we can involve as many people as we can.
And in a sense, that's a good thing. But, depending upon how you look
at the problem, you can then find different solutions. And so how you
define the problem determines the range of solutions.
Well, we began to take a look at the problem a slightly different way,
so we came up with a silver bullet, and we think it works. And we
think now that scientists are actually calling for that and saying
that it's 80% of the solution, which means, in essence, it's a silver
bullet.
And what we found was this: we're peaking in oil now. In this country,
we peaked in oil production in 1970. And we peaked in natural gas
production in 1973 in this country. So we have to import more and more
oil and gas as we increase our consumption every year, as the country
grows and we add more people and more buildings. So we increase our
consumption of those fuels.
Globally, we're peaking in oil
right about now. Some people say we peaked last year. Some people say
we're going to peak in six months. But we're right around the peak.
What happens after the peak is that production declines, therefore
consumption declines, therefore the price goes up. And we're beginning
to see that happen now. And the further you get away from the peak,
the more expensive the commodity becomes and the less and less you
use.
So, if you look at all the proven oil and gas reserves left in the
world, you begin to understand that you're not going to use all that
up, first of all, because it just going to become too expensive once
you get over the peak. And once those fuels become more expensive,
alternatives begin to look economically more feasible and a lot more
attractive. And so you begin to move toward alternatives very, very
quickly as the price goes up and up and up. And the faster it goes up,
the more quickly you look at alternatives. And you can see that now in
the transportation sector, because of oil.
So in essence, you don't use up all that you have left because at some
point it just becomes too expensive, the alternatives are just a lot
more attractive. So when you look at it that way, you see that oil and
gas can't really push us past the threshold of 450 parts per million
of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Those two fuels can't get us
there.
There are only three fossil fuels. What's the fossil fuel that will
put us over? Well, there's coal. And we have plenty of it in this
world. And we're moving to coal, and it's a really dirty fuel.
Coal by itself will push us way past a thousand parts per million. It
has a capacity to really push the planet in that direction. Now, coal
is very cheap and so there's an economic incentive to move toward
it-especially if you're in a recession as we are right now-but that
exacerbates the situation.
You have now the coal companies playing ads on primetime TV every
night; they have a $50 million campaign going on right now to convince
the American public that coal is clean. They don't tell you how it's
clean or why it's clean or anything else, they just put out these warm
and fuzzy ads that talk about clean coal and how inexpensive it is and
how we should adopt it. They're saying nothing about climate
change.
In essence, there really isn't any clean coal. So it's a
disinformation or misinformation campaign on the part of the coal
companies.
So if you stop coal, then you have basically leveled greenhouse gas
emissions in this country and globally. We need a global moratorium on
coal, then we need to phase out all dirty coal plants. So if you can't
fuel global warming with oil and gas, and you get a moratorium on coal
(which is the silver bullet) you don't get to the point of 450 parts
per million and you can begin to actually reduce carbon dioxide
emissions globally. So in essence, it's a silver bullet.
Now, people point to the fact that we have oil shale and tar sands,
and those are unconventional fossil fuels. The problem with that is:
to extract those two commodities requires a cheap energy source,
because you have to put quite a bit of energy in to get a little bit
more energy out.
So if you take cheap coal out of the picture altogether-you call a
moratorium on coal-you have, in essence, made it very, very
difficult to go to those other two sources.
TH: You spoke a second
ago about the coal industry and the efforts that they're making to
sell people on the clean coal thing. Architecture 2030 has taken out
some ads lately in the New York Times and elsewhere, and the one that
really stuck out to me where you list some of these major corporate
sustainability initiatives and then juxtapose them against the impact
of coal power.
The first one on the
list says: "Home Depot is funding the planting 300,000 trees in
cities across the US to help absorb carbon dioxide."
Then, to put that in perspective: "the CO2 emissions from only one
medium-sized coal-fired plant in just 10 days of operation will negate
this entire effort." That's pretty humbling. What sort of response
have you gotten since running this ad?
EM: Well, people are amazed.
They didn't understand the power to pollute that coal has. So for
example, the 300,000 trees: Home Depot's spending over $1 million and
they want to up it to 3,000,000 trees.
Now, they're doing this for a number of reasons. One is to beautify
cities, to provide shade, or create better microclimate conditions,
create a nicer environment. But part of it is also to sequester
carbon. What a tree does is as it grows is it soaks up carbon dioxide
and stores it in its fabric, in its wood. The negating of this effort
is negating the 300,000 trees over their 100-year lifetime. That's the
power of putting out the CO2 from that power plant.
It also says is that it's going to be very hard for us to plant our
way out of the situation-you just can't do it. You just can't plant
enough to absorb more than a very small fraction of what we put out
and produce in terms of carbon dioxide annually. So it really is going
to take a moratorium on coal. That is the silver bullet.
What's interesting about that is it's something people can rally
around. It's not some kind of amorphous, hundred-thousand item
smorgasbord of activities. It's something you can define, it's
something you can get behind, and it's something you can call for. And
once the numbers get large enough, then that action will happen,
especially in a democracy.
So it's critical that we get that word out, because the more numbers
we have, the quicker we can get the job done.
TH: The U.S. Green Building Council's LEED standards have become the
benchmark for what a green building is. At the recent Greenbuild
Conference in Chicago there was a lot of talk about the fact that LEED
buildings aren't very good to performing the way they're predicted to.
Are the LEED standards getting us where we need to go as far as
buildings?
EM: Right now, no. But they're moving in the right direction, and they
have adopted the 2030 targets. If you look at the actual energy
consumption and LEED certification, you have different values of LEED
certification. Everything from just basic certification up through
Silver and Gold and Platinum.
The Platinum buildings perform within the targets set by the 2030
challenge. Some of the Gold buildings do and some don't; and very,
very few of the Silver buildings do. And then among those that are
certified, you don't get very many that do. But recently, the USGBC
adopted the 2030 targets and they're now working to incorporate the
targets in LEED certification.
So that is a very, very positive move because the USGBC was one of the
first organizations to bring awareness and, in a sense, they coined
the phrase "green building." And so they have a huge role to play
in alleviating the building sector's role and actually turning it
around and making it part of the solution to global warming and
climate change. And I think they're moving to do that now.
TH: Where do you see the
most encouraging signs? What can you point at and say, there! There is what we need to see more
of?
EM: Well, there are two sides to the coin: there is the supply side
and demand side. Coal is the supply side. So we call for moratorium on
coal-that's the silver bullet. The demand side is the 2030
challenge. You reduce demand, you don't need the coal. So you need to
work those two in tandem.
What gives me tremendous hope at this point is that on the demand
side, the 2030 challenge is spreading like wildfire. In fact, the
federal government, in the latest energy bill that was just passed and
signed into law, requires all federal buildings to meet the 2030
challenge targets.
So the feds now have taken it on. That puts the resources of the
federal government behind creating the technologies, the information,
to meet the targets, and so that is a very, very important step. So in
that sense, the demand side is very, very encouraging.
You get cities and states now signing on to the 2030 challenge
targets. Santa Barbara was the first city that actually enact it into
code. California Energy Commission adopted it, the city of Richmond,
Virginia adopted it, most professional organizations have adopted
it.
On the supply side we had, up until a month ago, about 151 new coal
plants in various stages of development in the U.S.; conventional
dirty coal plants. About 50 of them have been knocked out already. So
about a third of the coal plants that were going to be built-that
were in various stages of development in the US-are now not being
built. You see Governor Crist in Florida: no coal for his state. In
California they are saying, 'we're not going to import any more
coal.'
So you see things happening across the country that are heartening,
and word is now getting out. That's why you see the coal companies on
a $50 million campaign to convince the American public that coal is
somehow clean. They wouldn't be doing this unless there was tremendous
pressure not to build these dirty coal plants.
If we build the coal plants we just don't have a chance. The power of
coal is just so great in terms of the emissions each one of these
things puts off that no matter what else you do, you can't negate
it.
We also see many states and governors, for example, issuing executive
orders saying, "we're going to reduce our state's emission by
X-amount by this date." Well, you go with coal in that state
you'll never make it.
Another thing that has to get across to the investment sector is that
not only do we need a moratorium, but we are going to need to phase
out all these dirty coal plants. The investment community must
understand that if they put money into building a plant, it may be
shut down in a short period of time. That's a risk that they're going
to have to take if they want to put their money in that
basket.