Thank you Dennis and Ray for all this info!   S

From: Dennis Pilien <dpilien98@yahoo.com>
To: Ray Cirino <cobanation@yahoo.com>; LAPG <lapg@arashi.com>; steve williams <steelheadwig@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Lapg] fish species for aquaponics?
The fingerling Tilapia can cost from $1 to $2 each. Check Craigslist and search for "fingerlings", especially in the Inland Empire and Imperial Valley areas.Tilapia Mama in San Diego is a good supplier. Search her site on the internet and contact her. It's easy to grow the fingerlings. A breeding set of one male Tilapia mossambica and five to six female Tilapia honorum can be very expensive, maybe as much as $1200 a breeding set. They cannot be kept in ponds or pools, but legally in aquaria (I told you to call Dr. Maxwell to have him explain the ins and outs of all of this "double-speak" aquaculturist laws) and are used as the parental types because their offspring result in the best of both parental phenotypes, i.e. maximized biomass increase per unit time, etc. Their resulting hybrids grow very fast, testosterone can be added to the water while they are very young to make all the babies male. This ensures they all grow much larger (200%?) than the females in the same time frame. Channel cat fingerlings (native to the U.S. east of the Rockies) can be purchased and shipped live from Central Valley Aqua Farm or others in So Cal. They used to be cheaper than Tilapia, but search online for breeders that will ship live fingerlings in bulk. I can help you too, for free. Call me.
Dennis 

From: Ray Cirino <cobanation@yahoo.com>
To: LAPG <lapg@arashi.com>; steve williams <steelheadwig@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Lapg] fish species for aquaponics?
Hay Steve,
As you know talopia need warm water,but maybe a green house with a grape vine over it may work.If you need talopia Ranch 00 Markets have live ones and cat fish.
Ray
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--- On Tue, 12/13/11, steve williams <steelheadwig@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: steve williams <steelheadwig@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Lapg] fish species for aquaponics?
> To: "LAPG" <lapg@arashi.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 8:20 PM
> hello all,
> Does anyone have suggestions for what (tasty)
> fish species are best for an aquaponics system?  It
> would be located in West LA, where the outside water temps
> have now dipped to low 50's.  (a bit too cold for
> tilapia)  Thanks in advance for any useful tips. 
> S 
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