I found this listing on Local harvest
http://www.localharvest.org/pure-land-farms-M19728
there's also these guys...
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/grd/1918482945.html
and I've actually seen goji starters at Home Depot
Personally I might have some seeds to share in the next couple months.
Let me know if you get those seeds from Tibet, would be interested to trade with you...
peace
R
I searched your JLHudsenseeds site and found no goji berries or wolfberries. I have searched in vain for these seeds and finally had to order them from Tibet-not very sustainable. If anyone knows of a local source it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Lynne
Lynne Latham ASID, LEED AP
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>From: sasha karlik <sasha@greens.org>
>Sent: Sep 1, 2010 4:42 PM
>To: Dennis Pilien <dpilien98@yahoo.com>, Lapg@arashi.com
>Subject: Re: [Lapg] 7 Foods/Plants The Healthiest People Eat
>
>Something I have suspected for several years, seems to be strongly
>affirmed if not confirmed by something I just read, following a link on
>Wikipedia to a very well written (2007) article at Tibetinfonet.net. If
>your curiosity is piqued after reading my short, irate rant, please read
>the complete article, at tibetinfonet.net. The first paragraph of that
>article appears below the link. The entire article is several pages
>long and worth the read...
>
>The real secret is that the name "Goji Berries" was created by cunning
>marketeers, to fraudulently sell a Chinese ag product, (Lycium)
>wolfberries, as somehow "Tibetan" or "Himalayan""Goji Berries". They
>are neither Tibetan, nor are they really "Goji Berries".
>
>Here is another 'secret' these marketers would prefer to keep a secret:
>Chinese wolfberries, even while grown and shipped with pesticides and
>fungicides, are often labeled and sold as "Organic", "Tibetan" or
>"Himalayan", and voila!, the price magically doubles or triples, as that
>pesky "Chinese" problem somehow magically disappears.
>
>If you like "Goji Berries", try making a little trip to Chinatown. You
>can find pallet loads of Chinese wolfberries at more than a dozen shops
>from about $5-$10/lb. Please do not buy them to re-package or resell as
>somehow Tibetan. It's sleazy, dishonest and disgusting to steal and use
>the good name of Tibet to cover up something that likely has toxic
>pesticides and fungicides and was probably produced by the mostly
>slave-labor market practices of the PRC.
>
>To perpetuate this deception only to inflate the profit margin is the
>epitome of greed and really sucks.
>
>In my humble opinion: The marketers who pull this kind of sh*t anywhere
>should get their individual and collective ass kicked off the planet.
>
>Thanks to Dennis Pilien for bringing up the question-- I'll bet you buck
>that these babies are already growing somewhere right here in North
>America. (anywhere between Panama to Alaska...)
>
>Order all the best heirloom seeds easily from one CA based seed bank:
>JLHUDSONSEEDS.NET
>
>"The best solution is a permaculture solution..."
>
>Sasha Karlik
>
>http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/SeedlistLO-LZ.htm
>LYCIUM (LISH-ee-um, LI-see-um, or LYE-see-um)
>SOLANACEAE. 'MATRIMONY VINE', 'BOXTHORN'. Ornamental shrubs, often
>clambering, or with graceful, arching branches. Valued for their
>funnel-shaped flowers and bright scarlet berries. Good for hedges,
>wildlife habitat, erosion control, food and medicine. Some of the 100 or
>so species are hardy in the North, and the pendant types are especially
>attractive cascaded down a wall. Good by the seaside and for fixing
>sandy banks. Easily grown.
>—Lycium chinense. (b,h) LYCI-12. Packet: $2.50
>Oz: $14.00
>'CHINESE WOLFBERRY', 'KUKO', 'KO-CHI'. Purple half-inch flowers June to
>September, followed by attractive scarlet 1/2 - 1" long berries, August
>to October. Graceful arching shrub to 12 feet, with bright green 1 1/2 -
>3" oval leaves. E. Asia. Hardy in the North, and "It is a splendid sight
>in autumn gardens, when its slender branches are laden with scarlet
>berries."—Yashiroda. These branches are much valued in Japanese
>flower-arranging. Germinates in 1 - 4 weeks. The young leaves are eaten
>in salads or boiled with rice as flavoring, and are also drunk as tea.
>The berries are eaten and a medicinal wine is made from them. Leaves,
>root and fruit are all highly valued in Chinese medicine, as "prolonging
>life, improving the complexion & brightening the eye."—Pen Ts'ao.
>—Lycium exsertum. (a!,h) LYCI-22. Packet: $2.50
>'WOLFBERRY'. Profuse small lavender flowers followed by abundant bright
>red edible berries. Spiny shrub to 3 - 6 feet. Low deserts, Arizona &
>México. Very drought resistant. The berries were eaten in great
>quantities by the Indians, fresh, cooked, or dried like raisins. Good
>wildlife shrub. Germinates in 2 - 6 weeks.
>
>
>
>http://www.tibetinfonet.net/content/update/124
>
>Under the exotic name 'goji berry', a variety of Lycium fruit, more
>commonly referred to as wolfberry, has taken the booming global 'health
>food' market by storm. Although the berries do possess exceptional
>nutritional qualities, many of those marketing 'goji berry' products
>claim the fruit has miraculous properties, such as curing cancer and
>increasing longevity; claims that have been exposed as fraudulent. What
>has been often overlooked however is that the aggressive marketing
>strategies supporting the goji craze rely heavily on portraying the
>berries as a Tibetan product. This Special Report shows that the
>purported Tibetan origin of goji berries is bogus and relies on the
>misappropriation and distortion of western research on Traditional
>Tibetan Medicine (TTM). Moreover, there are no indications that the
>berries that have swamped worldwide markets have actually been grown
>commercially in any Tibetan region of the People's Republic of China
>(PRC). Rather, they originate from regions at the outer fringes of the
>Tibetan Plateau where they are grown by Chinese Muslims (Hui). Apart
>from obscuring the provenance of the berries, Western goji traders
>present standard stereotypes, implicit assumptions of cultural
>superiority, and politically correct sanitisations, which neatly reflect
>the politically dominant image of Tibet in China. Many companies
>distributing goji products appear to cynically take advantage of the
>naivety or serious health problems of western consumers, as well as of
>inaccurate Tibet images in order to market a Chinese crop as a Tibetan
>product without providing any apparent returns to Tibetans. The example
>of the goji berry demonstrates that, unless transparent structures are
>established within and outside the PRC to verify the authenticity of
>Tibetan products, the name of Tibet is destined to be misappropriated as
>a convenient label that profits non-Tibetans.
>
>
>
>Superfood #2: Goji Berries
>Move over carrot.
>This little, bright red berry from China is one of the most potent
>sources of beta-carotene and vitamin C. These are both fantastic
>antioxidants.
>
>Goji berries also contain 18 amino acids and over 21 minerals which give
>them a serious power-punch to anyone’s system.
>Goji berries help stimulate your body’s natural human growth hormone
>which is critical in anti-aging and longevity.
>You can only get them dried in the US, so don't expect to find them in
>any produce section. Some health food stores will carry them, but you're
>best bet is online.
>Goji berries are a fantastic snack--eat them just like you would
>raisins--to add to your superfood arsenal and are a great addition to
>any herbal tea.
>
>
>
>On 09/01/2010 09:37 AM, Dennis Pilien wrote:
>>
>> Hi All:
>> Here's a thought: These are the healthiest foods/plants to eat. See
>> attachment for more details on each food/plant nutrient. My question to
>> any of you is "Do you know where I can get any one these locally?" I am
>> searching online for seeds or cuttings or techniques to raise or grow my
>> own.
>> I want to grow them in my mini-greenhouses/ponds this fall/winter as
>> needed and/or in my own garden or community garden plot. I want to use
>> permacultural agriculture, aquaponics/mariculture and experimant in the
>> city a bit. I hope it works out. I might also try a Chido Govero-style
>> of agriculture also (small-scale, high-end product, permaculturally) of
>> course.
>>
>> The 7 foods/plants the healthiest people eat are: *Cacao, Goji Berries,
>> Maca, Raw Honey, Spirulina, Sea Vegetables, Pumpkin Seeds*
>>
>>
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